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		<title>By: Antonio Chirumbolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonio Chirumbolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 04:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Prospective Student, 

I must tell you, not very many people live walking distance to school. The ones that do, still have around a 15 minute commute on average walk. The others that live in Manhattan, have about a 20-25 minute commute via subway etc. 

Many people who live in Queens have a 20-25 minute commute as well.

In short, there really isn&#039;t any way to avoid a 15-30 minute commute no matter where you are living. If you want the Manhattan experience and don&#039;t mind paying a lot more money in rent, then absolutely, do it and see what it is like.

Generally, safety isn&#039;t an issue in Manhattan (assuming you will be living in the areas that most students live in) and as for noise, well it is a big city and there is a lot of traffic. Some people find lots of noise where they are living and others do not. It honestly all depends on where you live in Manhattan, its a big place!

If you are looking for more residential and quieter areas, then Queens is the place to be, although, that doesn&#039;t mean there are not quiet areas in Manhattan, there indeed are.


As for networking and jobs. As a 2nd year student, I am not too familiar with that. All I can tell you is that of all the upperclassmen friends I have had who have graduated over the 2 years I&#039;ve been at SUNY, I haven&#039;t heard any of them not having work. As for practicing in other countries, I don&#039;t really know what to say about that. That is a whole other animal that is totally dependent on what country etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Prospective Student, </p>
<p>I must tell you, not very many people live walking distance to school. The ones that do, still have around a 15 minute commute on average walk. The others that live in Manhattan, have about a 20-25 minute commute via subway etc. </p>
<p>Many people who live in Queens have a 20-25 minute commute as well.</p>
<p>In short, there really isn&#8217;t any way to avoid a 15-30 minute commute no matter where you are living. If you want the Manhattan experience and don&#8217;t mind paying a lot more money in rent, then absolutely, do it and see what it is like.</p>
<p>Generally, safety isn&#8217;t an issue in Manhattan (assuming you will be living in the areas that most students live in) and as for noise, well it is a big city and there is a lot of traffic. Some people find lots of noise where they are living and others do not. It honestly all depends on where you live in Manhattan, its a big place!</p>
<p>If you are looking for more residential and quieter areas, then Queens is the place to be, although, that doesn&#8217;t mean there are not quiet areas in Manhattan, there indeed are.</p>
<p>As for networking and jobs. As a 2nd year student, I am not too familiar with that. All I can tell you is that of all the upperclassmen friends I have had who have graduated over the 2 years I&#8217;ve been at SUNY, I haven&#8217;t heard any of them not having work. As for practicing in other countries, I don&#8217;t really know what to say about that. That is a whole other animal that is totally dependent on what country etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Prospective Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prospective Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 23:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the swift reply. Now that my concerns have been cleared, I would like to ask additional questions regarding housing :)
I hear most students live in Queens, but I would like to live in Manhattan (though it may be cheap living in queen, I cannot buy the time 15-30min lost while riding subway/train). Of course the safety is my first concern. Secondly, since it is such a busy area, is noise problematic in Manhattan (especially with the honking...)? Last question I have for you is, is there enough network in U.S. (maybe in some foreign countries) for SUNY students so they may be able to find a job/start private practice without much difficulty? As always, your response shall be greatly appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the swift reply. Now that my concerns have been cleared, I would like to ask additional questions regarding housing <img src='http://optometrystudents.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I hear most students live in Queens, but I would like to live in Manhattan (though it may be cheap living in queen, I cannot buy the time 15-30min lost while riding subway/train). Of course the safety is my first concern. Secondly, since it is such a busy area, is noise problematic in Manhattan (especially with the honking&#8230;)? Last question I have for you is, is there enough network in U.S. (maybe in some foreign countries) for SUNY students so they may be able to find a job/start private practice without much difficulty? As always, your response shall be greatly appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio Chirumbolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonio Chirumbolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 22:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Prospective Student, 

Where I can&#039;t give you a number of patients seen after 4 years at SUNY, simply because I think it is an impossible number to predict (it is quite a large number), I will tell you that clinical experience at SUNY is of great quality. At SUNY, you will start to see patients, actually perform exams etc on these patients by yourself beginning in March of your Second Year. As for diversity, with the population that NYC has, I can tell you that you will always be seeing different cases on a daily basis. In fact, SUNY places great emphasis on clinical experience and all students by the time they get to 4th year are well prepared to perform competently at rotation sites.
 
 
As for professors:
 
The faculty at SUNY is extremely encouraging and always willing to help. This is not to say that they are not demanding, they are indeed very demanding, but then again, it is only for your own benefit. There hasn&#039;t been a single class where the professor has not posted notes or given handouts, or at the very least made their audio available online. I am also unaware of notes that only cover 50% of the material, I haven&#039;t had any classes like that either, so I am not quite sure why you were told that. I will say that some professors do provide notes; however, it is your responsibility to read required readings, which may explore various aspects of topics which may or may not be stressed in as much detail in class. All of the professors are fair, some more difficult than others, but all are fair. I would say around 95% of what you need to know you will be taught in class with materials provided by the professor. And in general, the student community is very tight at SUNY. Your classmates aren&#039;t your competitors here, but rather another resource. We all try to achieve success collectively as a class, so not only is there encouragement from the faculty and staff, but your own classmates as well. Please do let me know if you have other questions or if I was unclear about something.

-Antonio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Prospective Student, </p>
<p>Where I can&#8217;t give you a number of patients seen after 4 years at SUNY, simply because I think it is an impossible number to predict (it is quite a large number), I will tell you that clinical experience at SUNY is of great quality. At SUNY, you will start to see patients, actually perform exams etc on these patients by yourself beginning in March of your Second Year. As for diversity, with the population that NYC has, I can tell you that you will always be seeing different cases on a daily basis. In fact, SUNY places great emphasis on clinical experience and all students by the time they get to 4th year are well prepared to perform competently at rotation sites.</p>
<p>As for professors:</p>
<p>The faculty at SUNY is extremely encouraging and always willing to help. This is not to say that they are not demanding, they are indeed very demanding, but then again, it is only for your own benefit. There hasn&#8217;t been a single class where the professor has not posted notes or given handouts, or at the very least made their audio available online. I am also unaware of notes that only cover 50% of the material, I haven&#8217;t had any classes like that either, so I am not quite sure why you were told that. I will say that some professors do provide notes; however, it is your responsibility to read required readings, which may explore various aspects of topics which may or may not be stressed in as much detail in class. All of the professors are fair, some more difficult than others, but all are fair. I would say around 95% of what you need to know you will be taught in class with materials provided by the professor. And in general, the student community is very tight at SUNY. Your classmates aren&#8217;t your competitors here, but rather another resource. We all try to achieve success collectively as a class, so not only is there encouragement from the faculty and staff, but your own classmates as well. Please do let me know if you have other questions or if I was unclear about something.</p>
<p>-Antonio</p>
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		<title>By: Prospective Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prospective Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 22:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the article, Antonio. I have a question about your school. I am currently trying to decide between ICO and SUNY. Can you tell me how many patients you are exposed to in SUNY during 4 years? ICO claims that their students will see diverse and over 1600 patients. Will I get enough experience compared to other schools that I may be confident during my rotations? Moreover, I would like to know more about the professors. At SUNY interview, I was told that not all professors do not post their notes, PPT, or lecture presentation [audio] for students. Plus I learned that even the notes provided covered only half of the material on the exams (which may worth 50% of your final grade). I am looking for a school that is student centered. I wonder if you have a different and new view on my previous statements. Personally, if I am to spend 3 years of my life it better be worth it and without a doubt that I will get the best education compared to other graduates. Of course it is what I make of from what is given; however, the willingness to help and encourage students to improve their skills is crucial in faculty/staff [not providing the necessities like notes [key points or outline of the chapters covered since there are so much to cover, busy working to visit the office hours, literally have no time to read every word in the book and additional articles] demonstrates otherwise [even though the purpose may be to make students come to lectures. At the end the students who come to class are disadvantaged because of those who do not]. Anyway if the student representative have misinformed regarding SUNY please feel free to correct them and write additional comments. Thank you in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the article, Antonio. I have a question about your school. I am currently trying to decide between ICO and SUNY. Can you tell me how many patients you are exposed to in SUNY during 4 years? ICO claims that their students will see diverse and over 1600 patients. Will I get enough experience compared to other schools that I may be confident during my rotations? Moreover, I would like to know more about the professors. At SUNY interview, I was told that not all professors do not post their notes, PPT, or lecture presentation [audio] for students. Plus I learned that even the notes provided covered only half of the material on the exams (which may worth 50% of your final grade). I am looking for a school that is student centered. I wonder if you have a different and new view on my previous statements. Personally, if I am to spend 3 years of my life it better be worth it and without a doubt that I will get the best education compared to other graduates. Of course it is what I make of from what is given; however, the willingness to help and encourage students to improve their skills is crucial in faculty/staff [not providing the necessities like notes [key points or outline of the chapters covered since there are so much to cover, busy working to visit the office hours, literally have no time to read every word in the book and additional articles] demonstrates otherwise [even though the purpose may be to make students come to lectures. At the end the students who come to class are disadvantaged because of those who do not]. Anyway if the student representative have misinformed regarding SUNY please feel free to correct them and write additional comments. Thank you in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio Chirumbolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonio Chirumbolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 02:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the kind words Serenity. What are you majoring in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the kind words Serenity. What are you majoring in?</p>
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		<title>By: Serenity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serenity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is really good! I wish there was one for my major as well! Great job Antonio!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is really good! I wish there was one for my major as well! Great job Antonio!!</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio Chirumbolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonio Chirumbolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 22:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ MariaD - Thank you :)

@ Thai - Yes, it was an extremely busy year, and first years all around deserve a well earned break. So be sure to relax!

@Angelica - The only true dissection we did was indeed, dissection of a cow&#039;s eye. The eye is an incredibly durable and tough structure. Very cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ MariaD &#8211; Thank you <img src='http://optometrystudents.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Thai &#8211; Yes, it was an extremely busy year, and first years all around deserve a well earned break. So be sure to relax!</p>
<p>@Angelica &#8211; The only true dissection we did was indeed, dissection of a cow&#8217;s eye. The eye is an incredibly durable and tough structure. Very cool!</p>
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		<title>By: angelica D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>angelica D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job! What type of dissections do you during your 1st yr? I heard that students dissect cows&#039; eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job! What type of dissections do you during your 1st yr? I heard that students dissect cows&#8217; eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: MariaD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MariaD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 19:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is really good! I wish there was one for my major as well! Great job Antonio!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is really good! I wish there was one for my major as well! Great job Antonio!!</p>
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		<title>By: Thai Nguyen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thai Nguyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 05:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for candidly sharing your 1st year experience...my experience was very similar to yours. Enjoy your summer break...we all deserve it!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for candidly sharing your 1st year experience&#8230;my experience was very similar to yours. Enjoy your summer break&#8230;we all deserve it!!!</p>
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